Can you not be a homophobe, but not support gay rights?

11/02/2011 admin 16 comments

Background: I’m a Christian, depending on your definition of one, but I consider myself one.

I don’t support gay rights, but I’m most certainly not afraid or hateful of gays. I have participated in day of silence (look it up if you don’t know) for two years now and plan to do it this year as well. I’ve also been mistaken for gay more than once because of who I hang around ><

I believe hating somebody because they are different to you (Christians to Gays, Everybody else to Christians) is horrible, appalling, and unreasonable.

I believe acts of homosexuality to be immoral and unnatural, but that seems like a smaller problem to me, compared to everything else in the world and it does NOBODY any good to bash gays for that and it only makes us seem more ignorant and intolerant

So to my fellow believers in Christ: Could you love your neighbor please? Whether they are gay or not? God doesn’t hate gays, they are still his children, he loves all. Yes, they are sinners, so are you, you are all equal in the eyes of God. My brother is Catholic, yet openly(ish) gay but I don’t follow him around telling him God hates him. So please please please, stop making us look bad by persecuting those different than you. Turn the other cheek. =D

To my fellow Christians are intolerant hypocritical stupid liars that follow a magical fairytale book people: Try not to stereotype all of us and try not to be ignorant when making accusations. Yes, I am shocked some of us will kill gays for Jesus, it disgusts me. And I know we don’t live up to what we preach, but we try to teach the world good morals and try to live up to them. If an alcoholic father tells his son to stay away from booze, does that make him a bad person for saying that? No, he’s trying to help his son be a better person. God is not flawed, his people are. Instead of passing laws to shut us up, remind those who will listen what they need to do.

Anyways, that’s my little rant, go ahead and flame me. <3
Ah, Well, I’m getting alot of people asking why I did Day of Silence

I did it because of the gays that were killed because they were killed. Put it this way, I do it to stand up against hate, not to stand up for rights.

“The goal of the Day of Silence is to make schools safer for all students, regardless of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression. In a Harris Interactive study on bullying, students said two of the top three reasons students are harassed in school are actual or perceived sexual orientation and gender expression.”

It’s not to stand up for gay rights, contrary to popular belief. =D

ALCOHOLISM TREATMENT homophobe, rights, support

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Written by Zoe Dot about 1 year ago.

NO, that’s like saying your not racist but you don’t agree with inter-racial marriage and you don’t think black people should have equal rights. It is a contraction in terms. If you do not support equal civil rights, you might as well be a homophobe or in the case of race, a bigoted racist.
Written by Squeezle about 1 year ago.

The answer WOULD BE YES if your position that “Homosexuality is Unnatural” held any water.

Unfortunately, the evidence is in and being gay is as hardwired and natural as being straight.

Not to mention that “Separate Yet Equal” is not a part of the American way of life… ALL are equal under the law… Or should be at any rate.

††† National Geographic Explorer: Sex, Lies, & Gender
http://vodpod.com/watch/2198124-sex-lies-and-gender-national-geographic-channel

††† Single, Angry, Straight Male… Seeks Same?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=single-angry-straight-male A classic study reveals that young homophobic men have secret gay urges

††† Evolution myths: Natural selection cannot explain homosexuality
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13674-evolution-myths-natural-selection-cannot-explain-homosexuality.html

††† Evidence for maternally inherited factors favouring male homosexuality and promoting female fecundity
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:pz9KfwhuF4wJ:www.bio.ilstu.edu/sakaluk/BSC%2520304/BSC%2520304%2520PDFs/Camperio-Ciani%25202004%2520P%2520Roy%2520Soc%2520homosexuality.pdf+evidence+for+a+genetic+component+of+homosexuality&cd=55&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

††† GENDER BASICS:
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html#anchor107763

††† Mom’s Genetics Could Produce Gay Sons
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html

††† Bisexuality is a Distinct Sexual Orientation
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=8902D6F8-F97C-E6FE-74B6D67845F05FEA

††† Why Gays Don’t Go Extinct
http://www.livescience.com/health/080617-hereditary-homosexuality.html

††† The Real Story on Gay Genes
Homing in on the science of homosexuality—and sexuality itself
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay

††† Survival of genetic homosexual traits explained
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519

††† Mothers’ genetic skew linked to gay sons
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

††† Having Older Brothers Increases a Man’s Odds of Being Gay
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=having-older-brothers-inc

††† Gay Brain Shows Gender Atypical Traits
Asymmetry Seen in Straight Men, Gay Women
http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20080616/gay-brain-shows-gender-atypical-traits

††† LiveScience.com – Gay Animals: Alternate Lifestyles in the Wild
http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/index.php?url=&cat=gayanimals

††† Same Sex Couples Common in the Wild
http://www.livescience.com/animals/080516-gay-animals.html

††† Homosexual Animals Out of the Closet
http://www.livescience.com/animals/061116_homosexual_animals.html

††† Female Albatrosses Shack Up
http://www.livescience.com/animals/080527-samesex-albatross.html

††† The Effeminate Sheep And Other Problems With Darwinian Sexual Selection.
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_gay_animal_kingdom/

††† Homosexual behavior in animals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

††† List of animals displaying homosexual behavior
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

††† Keeping an Open Mind to Animal Homosexuality
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/06/samese/

††† 1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

††† Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

††† Animal Homosexuality
http://mathrubhumi.org/news.php?id=19383&cat=1&sub=31&subit=0

††† Gay penguins steal eggs from straight couples
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3530723/Gay-penguins-steal-eggs-from-straight-couples.html

††† Gay Penguins Split In Love Triangle Shock
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Gay-Penguins-At-San-Francisco-Zoo-Have-Split-After-Six-Years-After-Harry-Leaves-Pepper-For-Linda/Article/200907315341064?f=rss

††† Bisexual Species: Unorthodox Sex in the Animal Kingdom
Homosexual behavior is common in nature, and it plays an important role in survival
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=bisexual-species

††† Do Gay Animals Change Evolution?
Animals that engage in same-sex sexual behavior may be acting in accord with adaptational strategies rather than against them–and bending the way we think about evolution
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gay-animals-and-evolution

††† Gay ducks derail repopulation plan
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=gay-ducks-derail-repopulation-plan-2009-03-10

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Written by Basil about 1 year ago.

You don’t know who God hates, and who God loves. Don’t talk before God. You are not his messenger.
You have no right with such posts, people have no rights in being harsh to homosexuals. It’s not our problem what they are, it’s God’s problem, and we don’t know how God judges.
Written by Trent about 1 year ago.

God made gay people and God doesn’t make mistakes! You have too much time on your hands.
Written by Johnny <3 about 1 year ago.

If you dislike gay people and everything that has to with them then you’re a homophobe. If you disagree with something then it means that you’re human and have an opinion
Written by livewire9 about 1 year ago.

you turned on the flame switch yourself wes… are you sure it’s not singeing you?

edit:
who’s god basil? yours? you can keep her…
Written by fighter with a cause about 1 year ago.

oh jeebus, another rant about this stuff. “im christian but dont believe gays are going to hell BUT then again i dont want them to get married” and blah-butty-blah-blah-blah. im sick and tired of seeing this stuff, quite personally.
Written by Hanna about 1 year ago.

You seem to contradict yourself.
“I don’t support gay rights”
“I believe acts of homosexuality to be immoral and unnatural”
“I have participated in day of silence” (er… given the above statements, why?)

Although I can’t say I agree with some of your statements, believe what you want. However, thank you for being a Christian who actually seems understand the point of the Bible! You know, accept everyone, treat people with respect, yadda yadda…
Written by 123 about 1 year ago.

No. Gay people are NASTY.

BATTYBWOY FI DUN!!!!!!!!!
Written by Gretchen about 1 year ago.

I don’t get why you are participating in the Day of Silence when you don’t support gay rights. And the fact that you think homosexuality is immoral makes you homophobic.
Written by Starr about 1 year ago.

Yes I love my homosexual friends and relatives, I don’t care that they want to be with the same sex… but just like I have expressed to them I will tell you the same…
When they decided they didn’t want to be with the opposite sex… they gave up the right to have children, and I’m 100% against homosexual couples adopting children. I don’t care if they get married, just don’t get married in the church of christ
Written by Kyle about 1 year ago.

Personally I think your following your religious morals and laws by your god. If you where more open-minded and would not allow the religious aspects to conflict with your beliefs as Human not as a Christian you will then soon realize everyone has the right to be loved. Who are we to stop people from being with the people they have so longed to be with. You cant punish them for being who they are. If god truly wanted humans to be perfect we would all have the same faces. We are all born different, portraying different personalities and living different lives. I say everyone has the right to love and the right to marry whom they want regardless of their sexual orientation. Being against gay rights is just a barrier you have created due to your beliefs. If you where a true christian you would stand up for what is right not for what scriptures bound by society have created. “All men are created equal”.
Written by Uki about 1 year ago.

ehm….no. You can’t do that. Gay rights is not about having ‘more’ rights than other. Just because we are sinners for you, that doesn’t mean that we have ‘less’ rights than you, who claim to be holy.

We fight for gay rights because we have been treated badly, discriminated against, and unjustly persecuted. People aren’t treating us as equal. All we fight about is to be equal, hand in the hand, with people like you. You can have your thoughts about gay people, whether they are sinners and all. But you can’t go against our fight for our rights to be equal.

You really think that all christian people who support gay rights are not like you? That they don’t think being gay is wrong? No. There are a lot of our supporters of gay rights that are conservative catholic as well and they think being gay is wrong and unnatural. However, they also know, that gay people are being discriminated, doesn’t have their equal rights like others and they fully understand that gay rights are important so that gay people wouldn’t be treated ‘less’ that others. Therefore, they also march with us.

Also, you can’t really generalize that all gay people hated Christians. Every person have a different story for themselves, and they have their own experiences. Therefore, not all of them knew about how many good Catholics like you existed in this world. They have been discriminated by too many people for too long, and found no help, at all, even from Christians. So you can’t help it that they ill thinking towards you.

And that’s my little rant for you, unfortunately, I don’t bring gasoline to flame on someone XD

btw, that small metaphor about the alcoholic father is sort of…..err……incorrect. If that’s the right metaphor, than it means that a gay father told his son to not being gay. Not just the meaning is incorrect, but we also believe that being gay is not a choice, unlike being an alcoholic.
Written by frogman about 1 year ago.

Man, did you open a can of worms ? Yeah, yeah I had 8 years of perfect attendance at the Lutheran Sunday School and I still came out bisexual. Thank you for sticking up for ideas which I long understood to be advocated by Jesus including non-judgement of others. I mean really.

My indifference to gay rights is because Latino farm workers, young black men in jail for pot possession, and a lot of other non-descript people many of whom just happen to be gay as well, have very few priviledges beyond the legal minimum. For example, I am a life-long construction worker. It suited me and I felt it was creative and worthwhile. I got sucked into and squeezed out of one health insurance program after another, even though I had 2 children. If a gay man who has a good-paying Civil Service job supports his boyfriend who stays home and manages the household, I am good with that. But if they claim that Mr. Househusband is entitled to no-extra-cost health and life insurance and other costly benefits paid by the rest of the citizenry, I think we need to start over and include rights for every person who works or wants to work.

In some ways it is partly an urban/ rural misunderstanding. More gay folks live in big cities which makes sense. But they believe “the world” owes them this and that like they are so unusual. I say get a job and pay for your own effing insurance. And my Christian friend, thanks for the question, but I just don’t understand all the lingo but I like all the “Do It Like Jesus” advice. Even when he blew his stack, did he pull out the 44 mag ? NOOOO ! He flipped over the tables of the money-changers in the Temple. Those crooks had it coming. And Mary Magdalene, thought to be a prostitute, was probably stuck in a small town. And turning the putrid water into really good wine for the wedding right away makes perfect sense; the drunks can drain or toss out the moldy swill at 2 AM.
Written by Lautrec about 1 year ago.

I have never been so happy to be an Atheist. I completely disapprove of your rationalization, although I will give you this: you’re more accepting than most religious people. MOST Christians not only see gays as ‘sinners and an abomination’ but openly encourage violence towards them. Glad you’re not out to kill us all and, as you mentioned, under the guidelines of your faith everyone is a sinner. I guess we’ll all be hanging out in nonexistent Hell.
Written by Michael A about 1 year ago.

Get real.

I am a gay Christian, and I find that you are being dishonest with your own heart.

Deep down, you *know* you should be supporting us. That’s why you participate in the Day of Silence.

Yet you refuse to support gay rights. Why?

That’s like saying, “I’m not against black people as long as they don’t vote, or marry someone white, or eat in the same restaurant as me, or use the same bathroom as me, or use the same school as me”.

Duh.

Listen to your good conscience, not the misapplication of the bible so prevalent among Evangelicals.

The Southern Baptists broke off from the Northern Baptists around 150 years ago because they foolishly insisted that the bible supports slavery. If you look at a few verses here and there, they had a point — but the whole tenor of God’s love argues against that, and now everyone admits they were dead wrong. It is the same thing with their anti-gay preaching now. They quote half a dozen verses out of context and mistranslated, and look down on us as sinners. Shame on them.

Be honest, be real, be true.

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